I’ve written before about the first ten pages of a screenplay, and touched on the nature of the Catalyst (which the Save the Cat “beat sheet” insists should happen on exactly page 12). But I haven’t yet focused on its “Debate Section” — which was recently brought to my attention by one of my coaching clients.
So let’s talk about how the first act of a movie typically ends — and what takes us from the mid-act Catalyst (or Inciting Incident) to the Break into Act Two. (Try not to be annoyed by the inappropriate capitalization — it helps these structure “beats” stand out.)
An extremely common issue I see in scripts is that nothing really rocks the main character’s world in a big enough way until about p. 25-30. I often find myself suggesting that the current “Break into Two” event should actually be the Catalyst. While it’s true that something major should happen at the act break (the main character leaving their familiar world for an “upside down” one). But that does not mean this is where the main story problem begins. That happens earlier.
The point of the Catalyst is that it completely upsets the status quo and demands attention, now. It literally begins the story, which a quest for resolution of whatever it has brought. So if the first thing that really rocks the main character’s world is that they find themselves in an “challenging new world” of some kind, that event should be the Catalyst. In such stories, the Break into Two is not the first entrance into that world, but more of a forced commitment to dealing with it, for the foreseeable future, in a particular way.
What happens in between these two things is the Debate section.
Contrary to its name, it’s not just a bunch of talk about what to do and how to do it. And it’s not a single scene where such “talk” happens. Beat sheet examples online or in Save the Cat Goes to the Movies might focus on the big “questions” of the Debate, which makes sense. But the section is not just about asking them. It’s about exploring the available options, through action and conflict. The Debate is the entire second half of Act One, essentially (depending on how long it takes for the Catalyst to play out). So it’s usually a series of scenes in which the main character is actually taking steps to try to figure out, solve or reverse that Catalyst event. All of these efforts typically fail, and only one option remains — which is the path that Act Two will take.
The Debate section is a series of scenes where the main character actively tries to solve the massive challenge that has emerged as the Catalyst, usually in the simplest, smallest, most direct ways (which never work). They do the same things that you or I might do, if we were in their situation. This is part of what makes them relatable, and keeps the audience subjectively experiencing the story from their point-of-view. They don’t just leap into a scary “upside down world” willingly. They usually try to go back to what’s comfortable, as quickly as possible. Only when they are out of options does that change. So the Debate is often a “Refusal of the Call to Adventure.” Sometimes the main character does want to go on the adventure of Act Two, whatever it is, and the Debate is more of a quest to try to make that happen, which has its own difficulties.
Either way, it’s a transitional period between getting one’s world rocked, and later leaping into the void to take on whatever challenge is involved in trying to address that. During this crucial in-between section, they have time to deal with and reel from the Catalyst, consider the options ahead, and try those options out — starting with the one that requires the least from them. But the option they will be stuck with — at the Break into Two — will require the most.
A couple examples:
The Sting – following his friend Luther’s death at the hands of Doyle Lonnegan (the Catalyst), Robert Redford’s character looks for a way get back at Doyle, which leads him to Paul Newman, and possible “big cons” they could play on Doyle. The Break into Two is the beginning of their particular big con.
The Wizard of Oz — after being transported to Oz (the Catalyst), Dorothy tries to get the lay of the land and figure out who is for her and against her, and how to get back. She talks to Glinda the Good Witch, and ultimately decides to set out on the path to find the wizard (the Break into Two).
Has this section proven difficult for you? Do some of these challenges ring true? Do you see it a different way, or have question? Leave a comment and we’ll discuss…
Great article and so helpful. My writing partner and I uses the stages of grief to structure our debate section and find this to be really helpfull. Denial, anger, bargaining, depression, acceptance I think Agro has a super debate section.
As this, as you observe, is a common thread in found in movies and is perhaps more easily identifiable in Liar Liar and say Groundhog Day, (if indeed this is true) would it also be true to say that it is also manifest, though more concealed in movies like for example A Beautiful Mind and The Shawshank Redemption and Saving Mr. Banks. Thanks.
I would say yes! I think these SAVE THE CAT beats like “the DEBATE section” tend to work across genres and aren’t so obvious to notice (which is good), but are still there in most movies if you really look…
Really sharp analysis Erik and, for me at any rate, a fresh way to approach and explore the debate section.
This is very helpful. Thank you.
I’ve struggled with this for a long time but you’ve made succinct and glaringly obvious in hindsight. Thanks Erik.